GEEK FIGHT!!!!

In an effort to see if I will ever be able to download the newest episode of the Office, I have been combing the internet for some people who may have dealt with this issue. So far one solution posted has not worked. What I have found instead is endless entertainment on these apple message boards. Hilarious. I have no idea what they are talking about, but they are very eloquent and snippy. Highly intelligent bitches. Check this exchange:

MikeySan says (to a guy with my exact same problem)
You posted another iTunes 7 problem thread, and of both them blame iTunes in the subject line and post body.

Have you stopped to think that it's not iTunes, but something going on with your computer specifically? What troubleshooting have you done?__________________

Mikeysan is not very Zen and angry that someone would insult his apple stuff. He wants to start something. My man GPhaze is a fairly good diplomat and clearly not a fighter by nature

GPHAZE Says:that is entirely possible, however, after I "backgraded" to iTunes 6, all the problems went away and things work fine now.

I guess it could be my computer, but things work with old iTunes, and that works for me.Plus, iTunes 7 says it can't connect with the network, yet ALL other web-related applications I have running right now are able to connect with the web, get mail, update themselves, or whatever they do.

iTunes 7 wouldn't connect with the Podcast directory either.

So, based on all those things, plus the fact that all problems vanish when I go back to iTunes 6 leads me to believe the problem lies with iTunes 7.
Not trying to harsh anyone's buzz here.. I love apple stuff, but nobody's perfect.

Round 1: GPHaze!

Mikeysan is getting heated: I know he's pissed because he's using Ockham's Razor to point out that the simplist explanation is that GPHaze is a dick.
And other apps get to the Internet, but not the servers and services that iTunes contacts. Did you think about that? The iTunes Store has been HAMMERED since the conference yesterday--I'm still having trouble once in a while today, though it's almost perfect now. Did you consider that between trying iTunes 7 and moving back to 6 that the hiccup you were experiencing vanished? Or that iTunes 6 is contacting different services? You don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

There's a lot of info you don't have, and there haven't been massive reports of failures like there have been on your machine. Ockham's Razor says to look locally first, rather than say iTunes 7 is busted.

GPHaze really does not want this fight:

OK..wait a minute, Mikey-San..I'm not attacking you. I appreciate your suggestions, but what it comes down to is this:

1. iTunes 7 has problems which I enumerated

2. iTunes 6 has none of those problems.

ipso facto, I assume iTunes 7 has some kind of issue, and since it seems to have the problem, I chose to eliminate it rather than spend my whole day trying to debug my whole system.

that's all.

He's says he's not attacking MikeySan, but I think his use of Latin says otherwise.

MikeySan comes back with some Latin of his own and also a plea for mercy-

I'm more fond of this Latin phrase:

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
You assume it has an issue, and you're discounting the notion that you might need to troubleshoot your system. In fact, you should be doing this first before jumping into the assumption you've made, especially after saying that you've had multiple problems.

You may spend time troubleshooting and determine that there is indeed a real bug that's affecting people. You may discover that your system is having problems. You may discover that part of your issue (e.g., this server connection issue) is related to iTunes Store stress, your Internet connection (say, a wonky path/name server between your box and the iTunes Store), or whatever.

Do you see the point I'm trying to make? You refuse to troubleshoot--as I've quoted above--and jump straight to the problems being iTunes 7's fault. What kind of reaction do you expect?

And the winner is GPHaze for making MikeySan look, not like a geek, but worse, a doucebag.
GPHAZE Says:
OK..I am duly chastised.

I thank you for your helpful suggestions, will look into them if I have the time.

thank you!

GpHaze hasn't made a grammar mistake since 1886. There is no way he forgot to capitalize his T. He totally meant Fuck You! and not thank you! Burn, MikeySan.